Would WiFi Affects Health? Bi WiFi Vpliva na zdravje?
Most of you know that an usage of mobile phones can harm your health by increase the risk of brain tumor. Večina od vas ve, da je uporaba mobilnih telefonov lahko škoduje vašemu zdravju, ki jo poveča tveganje za možganski tumor. And how about WiFi wireless network which becomes popular and widely used? In kako približno brezžična omrežja WiFi, ki postane priljubljena in široko uporablja? You have no idea about it because there are no any research and conclusion from scientists yet. Nimaš pojma o tem, ker ni vsak raziskovalni in sklenitvi znanstvenikov še. Hence, UK Health Protection Agency has announced to carry out a systematic research on the potential health risks that wireless computer networks cause, aiming to find a answer for Wi-Fi health study. Zato, UK Health Protection Agency je napovedala, da se izvede sistematična raziskava o možnih zdravstvenih tveganjih, ki brezžičnega računalniškega omrežja vzrok, s ciljem najti rešitev za Wi-Fi zdravje študija.
“There is no scientific evidence to date that WiFi and WLANs adversely affect the health of the general population. "Ni znanstvenega dokaza, da datum, da WiFi WLANs in negativno vplivajo na zdravje prebivalstva. The signals are very low power, typically 0.1 watt (100 milliwatts) in both the computer and the router (access point) and the results so far show exposures are well within ICNIRP guidelines,” said Professor Pat Troop, Chief Executive of the Health Protection Agency. Signali so zelo nizko porabo, običajno 0,1 vata (100 milivatov) v računalnik in usmerjevalnik (dostopna točka), in rezultati kažejo, kolikor izpostavljenosti so tudi v smernicah ICNIRP, "je dejal profesor Pat Troop, izvršilni direktor za varovanje zdravja Agencije. “Given this, there is no particular reason why schools and others should not continue to use WiFi or other wireless networks.” "Glede na to, da ni posebnega razloga, zakaj šole in drugim ne bi smela še naprej uporabljati WiFi ali druga brezžična omrežja."
“However there has not been extensive research into what people's exposures actually are to this new technology and that is why we are initiating this new programme of research and analyses. "Vendar tam ni bilo obširne raziskave, kaj ljudje dejansko izpostavljenost, so na ta nova tehnologija in da je razlog, zakaj smo začetek tega novega programa za raziskave in analize. We have good scientific reasons to expect the results to be re-assuring and we will publish our findings,” he added. Imamo dobrih znanstvenih razlogov za pričakovanje rezultatov, ki jih je treba ponovno zagotavljanje in bomo objavijo naše ugotovitve, "je dodal.
Anyway, i believe that most of you got the same wish with me at this moment, which is no negative result on this preliminary WiFi health study research projects. Kakorkoli že, jaz verjamem, da večina od vas imam isto željo z mano v tem trenutku, ki ni negativen rezultat, o tem predhodno WiFi zdravje študija raziskovalnih projektov.
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May 16th, 2009 16:11 16. maj 2009 16:11
All of you adults needs to STFU. Vsi ste odrasli mora STFU. IM GONNA EAT MAH CHICKEN SO FUCK OFF IM Gonna Eat MAH PIŠČANČJE SO FUCK OFF
May 1st, 2009 07:52 1. maj 2009 07:52
nice to see a IEEE member input here. fin zagledati a IEEE član input tukaj. I am a concerned parent, and have reserached this for a year or so, and a fewthins seem clear to me in a very cintroversial field- Sem zaskrbljen staršev in so reserached te za eno leto ali tako, in fewthins zdi jasno, da me zelo cintroversial polje -
1)-the dismissive, “we are certain” attitude that often accompanies wrong ideas seems totally on the side of the “there is no harm” crowd–that alone makes me concerned- 1), se dismissive, "mi smo nekatere" odnos, ki pogosto spremlja narobe ideje zdi povsem na strani "ni škodilo" množice, da sam naredi mi zadevne -
2)-there have been many studies that show problems with health and non-ionizing RF–the majority of non industry studies. 2), so bile številne študije kažejo, da težave z zdravjem in neionizirajućih RF-večini niso industrija študij. It is false to say this is untrue. To je lažna povedati je to netaccno. Many have shown apparent connections between cell phones, for example, and health issues, incl cancer. Mnogi so pokazali očitne povezave med mobilne telefone, na primer, in zdravstvena vprašanja, vključno z rakom. These are reported differently in different places–but there are a lot of studies out there showing problems– To so poročali različno v različnih krajih, vendar obstaja veliko študij tam kažejo problemi -
3) wifi has never been tested for safety as a consumer product, nor was the cell phone. 3) WiFi še nikoli ni bil preizkušen za varnost potrošniških proizvodov, kot je, prav tako pa je mobilni telefon. Yet, warnings and concerns are commonplace. Kljub temu, opozorila in pomisleki so pogostejši. For example: Na primer:
-Germany has advised their citizens to avoid WiFi when possible. -Nemčija je svetoval svojim državljanom, da bi se izognili WiFi, ko je mogoče.
-Germany, Austria and Belgium have all advised schools against installing WiFi networks -Nemčija, Avstrija in Belgija so vse svetujemo šole proti namestitvi WiFi omrežjih
-WiFi is being removed from some public schools in England, in part due to complaints of health concerns from teachers, and the head of the teachers union their has called for a moratorium on WiFi in schools until safety issues are properly addressed. -WiFi se odstrani iz nekaterih javnih šolah v Angliji, delno zaradi pritožb zdravstvenih vprašanj iz učitelji in vodje učiteljev unijo njihova zahteva moratorij na WiFi v šolah do varnostnih vprašanj pravilno obravnavati.
-Five public libraries in Paris have removed their wireless network due to health concerns -Pet javne knjižnice v Parizu so odstranjeni njihovi brezžičnega omrežja zaradi skrbi za zdravje
-a Canadian University is refusing to put in WiFi due to lack of research proving safety -kanadski univerzi je zavrnila, da bi v WiFi zaradi pomanjkanja raziskav dokazujejo varnost
-An Austrian head of environmental health and medicine is considering a WiFi ban in schools, calling the technology “dangerous”, and saying he would immediately remove his own child from any school that had WiFi. -Avstrijski glavo za zdravje na področju okolja in medicina proučuje WiFi prepoved v šolah, da je tehnologija "nevarna", in pravim, da bi takoj odstraniti njegovega lastnega otroka od katere koli šoli, ki so WiFi.
-Perhaps most significantly, as of late 2007, the EEU (European Environmental Union), one of the world's top environmental agencies, is calling for immediate action to reduce exposure to radiation from Wi-Fi, mobile phones and their masts. -Morda najbolj pomembno, kot konec leta 2007, je EEU (European Environmental unije), je ena od svetovno največjih okoljskih agencij, je pozval k takojšnji ukrepi za zmanjšanje izpostavljenosti sevanju Wi-Fi, mobilni telefoni in njihove jambore. It suggests that delay could lead to a health crisis similar to those caused by asbestos, smoking, and leaded gasoline. To kaže, da zamude bi lahko pripeljalo do zdravstvenih kriz, podobnih tistim, ki jih povzroča azbest, kajenje in osvinčenega bencina.
One can have a position on either side, but to be dismissive about all the concern is not really a valid position, IMO. Eden ima lahko položaj na obeh straneh, vendar je treba o vseh dismissive skrb ni res veljavno stališče, IMO. Too many disagree to have it seen as a non-issue. Preveč strinjate, da so ga videli, kot da ni vprašanje.
There is more than enough reason, as well, IMO, to apply the precautionary principle here,and this means no wifi sold or allowed in public air space (incl residences that radiate into others space) until safety testing is done. Obstaja več kot dovolj razlogov, kot tudi, IMO, da se uporablja načelo previdnosti tukaj, in to pomeni, da ni WiFi prodanih ali dovoljeno v javnem zračnem prostoru (vključno prebivališč, da Svijetliti v drugi prostor), do preskušanja varnosti je storiti.
Cheers- Cheers -
April 22nd, 2009 04:46 22. april 2009 04:46
Unfortunately, you are wrong on this matter, and should be very cautious with such absolute statements as things in the research field are actually progressing very quickly. Žal, ste narobe o tej zadevi, in mora biti zelo previden s temi izkazi, kot absolutne stvari na področju raziskav se dejansko napredujejo zelo hitro. I am an IEEE member, have worked in microwave research, and know the existing research quite well, for the last 20 years. Sem član IEEE, so delali v mikrovalovni raziskave in poznajo obstoječe raziskave precej dobro, v zadnjih 20 letih.
Mobile phone have complex biological effects on humans, can create doublestrand DNA breaks in cells, other genotoxic effects, breaks in the blood/brain barrier, effects on calsium/magnesium/zinc, harm myelin sheets in the brain, acetylcholine, melatonin, several key proteins/HSP27 (heat shock protein), mast cells etc. Mobilni telefon so kompleksne biološke učinke na človeka, lahko ustvarite doublestrand DNK odmori v celicah, drugih genotoksičnih učinkov, odmori v krvi / možgansko pregrado, učinki na calsium / magnezijev / cink, škode Mijelin stanja v možganih, acetilholina, melatonin, nekaj ključnih proteins/HSP27 (toplotni šok protein), jambor celice itd
Leading Swedish researchers at Karolinska and Orebro Hospital know about this, came very recently to the conclusion that normal cell phone use over 10 years raises glioma risk 2-4 x. Vodilni raziskovalci na švedskem Karolinska in Örebro Bolnišnična vedeti o tem, je nedavno v sklep, da je normalno uporabo mobilnega telefona v 10 letih zbuja glioma tveganja 2-4 x.
1) “2.45 Ghz fields alter gene expression in cultured human cells” S. Lee, National Institute of Health 1) "2,45 GHz polja spremeni izražanje genov v gojene človeške celice" S. Lee, Nacionalni inštitut za zdravje
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16107253 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16107253
2) STUK - Radiation and Nuclear Safety Authority 2) Štuk - sevanji in jedrsko varnost
Non-thermal activation of the hsp27/p38MAPK stress pathway by mobile phone radiation in human endothelial cells: molecular mechanism for cancer- and blood-brain barrier-related effects. Non-termično aktiviranja je hsp27/p38MAPK stresa poti z mobilnim telefonom sevanju v človeški endotelijskih celic: molekularni mehanizem za rakom in krvno-možgansko pregrado, povezanih učinkov.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12076339 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12076339
3) INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF FIRE FIGHTERS: 3) Mednarodna zveza FIRE Fighters:
http://www.iaff.org/HS/Resi/CellTowerFinal.htm http://www.iaff.org/HS/Resi/CellTowerFinal.htm
36 page meta document on existing research 36 strani meta dokument o obstoječih raziskovalnih
4) EU funded Reflex study: 4) EU financira Reflex študija:
http://www.verum-foundation.de.admin.excellent-ms.net/www2004/html/pdf/euprojekte01/REFLEX_final%20report.pdf http://www.verum-foundation.de.admin.excellent-ms.net/www2004/html/pdf/euprojekte01/REFLEX_final% 20report.pdf
http://www.i-sis.org.uk/CMPBDASG.php http://www.i-sis.org.uk/CMPBDASG.php
5) Bioinitiative report/Univ. 5) Bioinitiative poročila / Univ. of Albany Albany
A Rationale for a Biologically-based Public Exposure Standard Razlog za Biološko temelji javno Izpostavljenost Standard
for Electromagnetic Fields (ELF and RF) za elektromagnetna polja (ELF in RF)
http://www.bioinitiative.org/report/index.htm http://www.bioinitiative.org/report/index.htm
6) EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT RESOLUTIONS 6) resolucije Evropskega parlamenta
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?type=TA&language=EN&reference=P6-TA-2009-0216 http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?type=TA&language=EN&reference=P6-TA-2009-0216
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//TEXT+TA+P6-TA-2008-0410+0+DOC+XML+V0//EN http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//TEXT + TA + P6-TA-2008-0410 +0 + DOC + XML + V0 / / SL
Finally, numerous leading researchers, neurosurgeons and medical doctors have been asking for a preemptive approach with microwave devices in numerous resolutions (Benevento, Salzburg, Freiburger etc). Končno, številni vodilni raziskovalci, neurosurgeons in zdravniki so bili prosijo za preemptive pristop z mikrovalovne naprave v številnih resolucijah (Benevento, Salzburg, Freiburger itd.) Among people asking for a cautionary/preemptive approach are Dr. G. Khurana, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, Dr. Lennart Hardell, Dr. Olle Johansson, Dr. Henry Lai, Dr. Narendra Singh, Sir William Stewart, head of UK Health Protection Agency and hundreds of others. Med ljudi, ki prosi za Opominjući / preemptive pristop Dr G. Khurana, Dr Sanjay Gupta, dr Lennart Hardell dr Olle Johansson, dr Henry Lai, dr Narendra Singh, sir William Stewart, vodja UK Health Protection Agencija in na stotine drugih.
Without any need for panic, this matter is real. Brez kakršne koli potrebe za paniko, ta zadeva je resnično. Unfortunately, microwave technologies (whether cell phones, bluetooth, Dect phones etc) next to ones head are not safe, to the contrary. Žal, mikrovalovne tehnologije (ali mobilnega telefona, Bluetooth, DECT telefone itd), poleg tistih, glave niso varne, nasprotno. Unfortunately, even WIFI technologies are not safe, have also complex genotoxic, nervous and immune system effects. Na žalost, tudi WiFi tehnologije niso varni, so tudi kompleksni genotoksičnega, živčni in imunski sistem učinke. Leading researchers in the field agree that preemptive approach should be used especially around children (remember, you were once a child). Vodilnih raziskovalcev na področju strinjajo, da preemptive pristop je treba uporabiti predvsem okoli otrok (ne pozabite, da si enkrat otroka).
October 17th, 2007 22:32 17. oktober 2007 22:32
“Most of you know that an usage of mobile phones can harm your health by increase the risk of brain tumor.” "Večina od vas ve, da je uporaba mobilnih telefonov lahko škoduje vašemu zdravju, ki jo poveča tveganje za možganski tumor."
Wrong wrong and once again WRONG!. Napačna narobe in spet narobe!. There have benn hundreds of scientific studies (some over 20 years now) and there is no concrete evidence that anything WiFi (Cell phone or other consumer sold products) will cause any tumors. Obstajajo Benn sto znanstvenih študij (nekaj nad 20 let) in ni konkretnih dokazov, da bi karkoli WiFi (Mobitel ali drug potrošniški prodajajo proizvode) bo povzročilo nobenih tumors.
I suggest you read up on it. Predlagam, da si preberete na to. See here: Glej tukaj:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone_radiation_and_health http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone_radiation_and_health
and Here: in tukaj: http://www.fda.gov/fdac/features/2000/600_phone.html http://www.fda.gov/fdac/features/2000/600_phone.html
please stop spreading FUD about the brain tumor and RF issues. Prosim nehaj širi FUD o možganski tumor in RF vprašanj. Leave that to the Media as they do such a great job of providing “facts” without backing them up in the first place. Pustimo, da se na medije, kot pa take a velik naloga zagotavljanja "dejstva", brez podloga jih na prvem mestu.